I don’t want to be here

In this 6-minute conversation, we talk about when things feel so bad that we’d rather not be present.


serge Prengel

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renée McGinnis

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.


Published March 2022